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		<title>Comment on The Perfect Test Pit by claymonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>claymonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 03:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the long delay in my reply, as this is a real tough one to answer. 

First off any kind of pit firing is probably not the way to do a real &#039;bisque firing&#039; in the conventional sense, as the pit is not really a kiln, but more like the &lt;i&gt;firebox&lt;/i&gt; in a conventional kiln design. In other words, you have widely varying, very uneven temperatures from the get go -- which subject your pots to all kinds of extreme thermal stresses -- and no insulation to retain and build up the heat needed to &lt;a href=&quot;http://pottery.about.com/od/potterygloassary/g/vitrify.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vitrify&lt;/a&gt; the clay. BTW It&#039;s not temperature &lt;i&gt;per se&lt;/i&gt;, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heatwork&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;heat work&lt;/a&gt;, that transforms clay into ceramics.

With that in mind, both the Weber and my cast iron &#039;pit&#039;, and indeed most pit firing techniques, are very poor choices for attempting a conventional firing, including bisque firing. Instead, what you might want to look into is kind of the next stage in the evolution of pottery firing from the open pit, i.e. the building of a simple updraft kiln with bricks, mud, shards, etc.; most probably separating out the firebox from the ware, too, in the process. Here is a book that should help you along the way: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.axner.com/primitive-pottery.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Primitive Pottery&lt;/a&gt; by Hal Riegger.

As to the temperature reached, I&#039;ve never measured it, but based on what I&#039;ve read the upper range is about 1000F to 1500F depending on whom you ask; though as I mentioned above it&#039;s not the top temperature reached somewhere in the pit that matters -- rather, whether and how one can arrive at the desired tempature at a uniform pace in a controllable manner, that&#039;s the real question.

Hope this helped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the long delay in my reply, as this is a real tough one to answer. </p>
<p>First off any kind of pit firing is probably not the way to do a real &#8216;bisque firing&#8217; in the conventional sense, as the pit is not really a kiln, but more like the <i>firebox</i> in a conventional kiln design. In other words, you have widely varying, very uneven temperatures from the get go &#8212; which subject your pots to all kinds of extreme thermal stresses &#8212; and no insulation to retain and build up the heat needed to <a href="http://pottery.about.com/od/potterygloassary/g/vitrify.htm" rel="nofollow">vitrify</a> the clay. BTW It&#8217;s not temperature <i>per se</i>, but <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heatwork" rel="nofollow">heat work</a>, that transforms clay into ceramics.</p>
<p>With that in mind, both the Weber and my cast iron &#8216;pit&#8217;, and indeed most pit firing techniques, are very poor choices for attempting a conventional firing, including bisque firing. Instead, what you might want to look into is kind of the next stage in the evolution of pottery firing from the open pit, i.e. the building of a simple updraft kiln with bricks, mud, shards, etc.; most probably separating out the firebox from the ware, too, in the process. Here is a book that should help you along the way: <a href="http://www.axner.com/primitive-pottery.aspx" rel="nofollow">Primitive Pottery</a> by Hal Riegger.</p>
<p>As to the temperature reached, I&#8217;ve never measured it, but based on what I&#8217;ve read the upper range is about 1000F to 1500F depending on whom you ask; though as I mentioned above it&#8217;s not the top temperature reached somewhere in the pit that matters &#8212; rather, whether and how one can arrive at the desired tempature at a uniform pace in a controllable manner, that&#8217;s the real question.</p>
<p>Hope this helped.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Perfect Test Pit by claymonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>claymonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 02:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you who have known Sam Lalley, it is with deep sadness that I&#039;ll relay to you the news that she has passed away this past summer. 

RIP Sam. We&#039;ll miss you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who have known Sam Lalley, it is with deep sadness that I&#8217;ll relay to you the news that she has passed away this past summer. </p>
<p>RIP Sam. We&#8217;ll miss you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Perfect Test Pit by claymonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>claymonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 02:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve sent you email about a week ago; did you receive it?

BTW for those of you who would also like to communicate with me directly, the best way to do so is to use the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.claymonk.com/blog/?page_id=11&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;contact form&lt;/a&gt;, as it is connected directly to my regular email account, and your message would remain private and not showing up here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve sent you email about a week ago; did you receive it?</p>
<p>BTW for those of you who would also like to communicate with me directly, the best way to do so is to use the <a href="http://www.claymonk.com/blog/?page_id=11" rel="nofollow">contact form</a>, as it is connected directly to my regular email account, and your message would remain private and not showing up here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Perfect Test Pit by claymonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>claymonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 02:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m having some difficulties visualizing what you have in mind, and I&#039;m not quite sure why you&#039;d need the metal mixing kettle, except perhaps to hold the sawdust together. But it seems what you have in mind should work fine nonetheless, at least for the way I fire.

You might want to check out a couple photos of a small temporary brick structure that &lt;a href=&quot;http://evafunderburgh.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eva Funderburgh&lt;/a&gt; has built for pit firing: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/genkigecko/4952166285/in/set-72157625084145114/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the enclosure&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/genkigecko/4968809771/in/set-72157625084145114/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the firing in action&lt;/a&gt;.

BTW this is a fairly common way to build a &#039;pit kiln&#039; with bricks -- I&#039;ve seen ones that are up to 4&#039;x 8&#039;x 4&#039; in size, and you can adjust the gaps between bricks to vary the airflow allowed into the structure during firing. The gaps can be plugged with damp clay during the firing, too, if desired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having some difficulties visualizing what you have in mind, and I&#8217;m not quite sure why you&#8217;d need the metal mixing kettle, except perhaps to hold the sawdust together. But it seems what you have in mind should work fine nonetheless, at least for the way I fire.</p>
<p>You might want to check out a couple photos of a small temporary brick structure that <a href="http://evafunderburgh.com/" rel="nofollow">Eva Funderburgh</a> has built for pit firing: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/genkigecko/4952166285/in/set-72157625084145114/" rel="nofollow">the enclosure</a> and <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/genkigecko/4968809771/in/set-72157625084145114/" rel="nofollow">the firing in action</a>.</p>
<p>BTW this is a fairly common way to build a &#8216;pit kiln&#8217; with bricks &#8212; I&#8217;ve seen ones that are up to 4&#8242;x 8&#8242;x 4&#8242; in size, and you can adjust the gaps between bricks to vary the airflow allowed into the structure during firing. The gaps can be plugged with damp clay during the firing, too, if desired.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Perfect Test Pit by claymonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>claymonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 02:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christiane, obrigado pelos elogios... glad you&#039;ve found the information here useful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christiane, obrigado pelos elogios&#8230; glad you&#8217;ve found the information here useful!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Perfect Test Pit by Bernie Fierro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie Fierro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 05:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Claymonk, may I have your email address so that I may contact you with a few questions?
Bernie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Claymonk, may I have your email address so that I may contact you with a few questions?<br />
Bernie</p>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed the site, spent quiet an amount of time with it (as a google search it sent me to some of your 2006 posts). I was looking to find out more about pit firings and what I could do to change up some of my results, most of which I liked and was hoping to replicate, but we fire rather differently.
Still very fun, looking forward to trying it out in the future!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed the site, spent quiet an amount of time with it (as a google search it sent me to some of your 2006 posts). I was looking to find out more about pit firings and what I could do to change up some of my results, most of which I liked and was hoping to replicate, but we fire rather differently.<br />
Still very fun, looking forward to trying it out in the future!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Perfect Test Pit by Sylvia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 21:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 20 gallon metal mixing kettle that I&#039;d like to convert into a fire pit.  I was thinking of making a slab with sand then cement blocks for the bottom then surround the container with landscaping blocks.  What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 20 gallon metal mixing kettle that I&#8217;d like to convert into a fire pit.  I was thinking of making a slab with sand then cement blocks for the bottom then surround the container with landscaping blocks.  What do you think?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Perfect Test Pit by Bernie Fierro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie Fierro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Claymonk, I can&#039;t tell how excited I am finding your blog. I am primarily a painter who spent a few years back in the late 60s learning to make pinch pots with Paulus Berensohn at the Wallingford Arts Center in Pa. and now pinching  again and wanting to learn all about BBQ and related ways of firing. I admire your work and wonder if I may ask you questions from time to time  about the mysteries [at the moment] of this craft.
I have, at this time no interest in being published.

Regards, Bernie Fierro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Claymonk, I can&#8217;t tell how excited I am finding your blog. I am primarily a painter who spent a few years back in the late 60s learning to make pinch pots with Paulus Berensohn at the Wallingford Arts Center in Pa. and now pinching  again and wanting to learn all about BBQ and related ways of firing. I admire your work and wonder if I may ask you questions from time to time  about the mysteries [at the moment] of this craft.<br />
I have, at this time no interest in being published.</p>
<p>Regards, Bernie Fierro</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Perfect Test Pit by Christiane Lins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christiane Lins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gostei muito da idéia do seu jornal. Estou pesquisando sobre &quot;pit fired&quot;, e suas informações foram muito esclarecedoras.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gostei muito da idéia do seu jornal. Estou pesquisando sobre &#8220;pit fired&#8221;, e suas informações foram muito esclarecedoras.</p>
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